Mungkin kita bisa melihat hasil diskusi atau mungkin bahkan perdebatan dari sebuah forum (lihat sumbernya dibawah) mengenai cara menggunakan kata "Keep" dan "Stay". Perhatikan kutipan percakapan/diskusi berikut ini.
Ada yang menanyakan seperti ini :
Hi,
- Eat right to stay healthy./Eat right to keep healthy.
- It was hard to stay awake./It was hard to keep awake.
- I was struggling to keep awake./I was struggling to stay awake.
- Don't turn off here, stay on this road/keep on this road.
Do 'stay' and 'keep' mean the same and interchangeable here?
ThanksKemudian berikut jawaban dari beberapa anggota forum :
Lexiphile Senior Member Germany England English :
I would have said "stay" in every one of these sentences. "Keep" can, however, be used without any discernable change in meaning (at least the change isn't discernable by me :)).
panjandrum PongoMod Belfast, Ireland English-Ireland (top end) :
I agree with Lexi. I can't explain why. Either there is a very subtle difference between stay and keep that neither of us can identify, or stay is simply the word we're accustomed to in these circumstances.
Lexiphile Senior Member Germany England English :
Interestingly, when you approach a roundabout in you car, you "keep left." I would never dream of saying "stay left" in such circumstances.
Again, I have no idea why!
linlon Senior Member mandarin :
Thank you both Lexiphile and panjan for your replies. Do you mean they have the same meaning here and one sounds better than the other one when using in different cases?
These two sentneces are from dictionary :
Thanks
- We huddled together to keep warm.
- The notice said Keep off (= Do not walk on) the grass’ Is 'stay' fine here?
panjandrum PongoMod Belfast, Ireland English-Ireland (top end) :
On reflection ...
Stay is a relatively passive verb; keep seems to me to be more active.
Stay on the right. You are on the right already, stay there.
Keep to the right. You will have to take specific actions to keep to the right.
That makes sense with some examples, but not all.
Lexiphile Senior Member Germany England English :
linlon said: ↑Panj may well be right with his "activeness" theory, but I suspect that it is more an observation after the fact than a rule to guide you in the future.
These two sentneces are from dictionary:
Is 'stay' fine here?
- We huddled together to keep warm.
- The notice said Keep off (= Do not walk on) the grass’
In these new sentences, stay can certainly be used, but one just doesn't (mostly). "Keep of the grass" is the normal expression. "Keep warm" is the normal expression. But there is nothing to stop you from using stay, and most people, in some circumstances, certainly would. As Panj said earlier, it's what you hear, so it becomes what you say. More habbit than rule.
linlon Senior Member mandarin :
Thank you both again for your replies. Here is an example of 'stay' from dictionary:
The weather has stayed/kept warm for all weak.
Is 'kept' fine here?
Thanks
Lexiphile Senior Member Germany England English :
I think "kept" would be most unusual in this sentence.
rawbee Senior Member Milano Italian :
About "keep on your left" and "keep off the grass" or "stay on your left" and "stay off the grass": could the difference lie not in the idea of activeness or passiveness, but in the idea of movement or not?
To "keep off the grass" or "keep on your left" implies that you are moving, "stay" implies that you are not. A sort of "keep on moving, just don't move in this direction or to this area"?
What do you think?
Lexiphile Senior Member Germany England English :
You may well be right, Rawbee. Perhaps that is the sort of "activeness" than Panj had in mind.
But I wonder about "Keep/Stay out of my way"? I'm not sure which I would use here (probably both, alternately) and I'm not sure whether or not movement is involved. Perhaps that's why I'm so ambivalent in this case.
linlon Senior Member mandarin :
Lexiphile said: ↑Hi Lexiphile,
I think "kept" would be most unusual in this sentence.
Thank you very much for your answer.
Which word do you think fit here?
'The fish can stay/keep fresh in the refrigerator.'
I wonder if their subtle difference is 'stay' means 'remain' and 'keep' means 'maintain'. If so, "It is hard to stay awake" and "It is hard to keep awake." might not be the same thing. What do you think?
Thank you very much.
MagdaDH Senior Member up North (naaah, further than that) Polish :
linlon said: ↑Yes, you might be on to something here. It would be related to this activeness mentioned above. I would say that keeping awake implied slightly more effort.
"It is hard to stay awake" and "It is hard to keep awake." might not be the same thing.
And similarly, I think stay away is slightly less forceful than keep away.
I would never say the fish will keep fresh, but always the fish will stay fresh. But: keep your fish fresh in the fridge.
BTW, the slight unsureness about keep/stay might be the reason why direction finders (eg AA route finder) use bear left when they mean changing direction, but without an obvious turn or when a fork in the road is met, or when the main road turns and the one that goes straight on is a minor rod.
Lexiphile Senior Member Germany England English :
Hi Linlon,
Magda got in before me, while I was busy with "me and her," but I agree with what she says (except that bit about bear left: my Navi tells me to "bear slightly right" at the oddest places).
Your idea about "maintain" being the same as "keep" sounds good. "Maintain" also has that feeling of active involvement, even when you say "the freezer maintains a constant temperature."
linlon Senior Member mandarin :
Thank you Lexphile and Magda very much for your kind answer. :)
Terima kasih. Semoga bermanfaat.
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